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Re: [WEB SECURITY] username & pw in clear-text through SSL considered safe?



Michele Orru' wrote:
what did you mean for "KEYS ALREADY OBTAINED"???
I cannot imagine what you're thinking.

Anyway about the fake trust hierarchy I think all of us, security people, know that the "human factor" has always
been the most exploitable: you don't need any fake hierarchy, just a fake certificate made with Dug's webmitm.


almost nobody checks every part of the certificate, even security people.
That's why ssl mitm still be  a great attack...

Browsers and mail clients too are still sending to the user the same message "the domain is bound to xxx, evenf if the certificate says xyz"... I still see a whole bunch of servers on Internet that use valid certificates bounded to different hosts...
and you always see this message!!!


Michele
if SSL traffic can be sniffed and decrytped by someone in your subnet or by somone that compromised one of your routers creating something like a GRE tunnel, then you're f*****

Whilst this is true, MITM and sniffing both rely on something else to be broken before they are of any practical use (keys already obtained, a fake trust hierarchy to be accepted by a client etc.). SSL works fine when implemented properly.

About how to store password in the db:
A salt is always recommended, but if you store password hashed with sha-256 or even 512 you're almost safe, despite the rainbow tables ;)

The salt is the thing that makes the rainbow tables ineffective; all common hash algorithms are prone to rainbow tables, because they are *common* and designed for general data throughput, not as password specific hashes. Martin...



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