Re: [WEB SECURITY] How to Create Secure Web Applications with Struts

[Pilon Mntry <pilonmntry@xxxxxxxxx>]

> It may not be a big issue, but I think it's
> important to understand  
> how choosing the web tier as a security provider
> could impact the  
> extensibility of the app down the line.

Nice comment. In owasp guide it goes like this;

"...the web / presentation tier should validate for
web related issues, persistence layers should validate
for persistence issues such as SQL / HQL injection,
directory lookups should check for LDAP injection, and
so on."

However, with this approach when positive validation
(whitelist) is used, there probably will be
unnecessary double validation: one in presentation
layer and the other in business layer. But I guess,
that's one should pay for extensibility and security
sake. 

And this is for data validation only. Authorization is
another issue...

And nice article by the way.

-pilon

--- Stephen de Vries <stephen@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Great article!
> 
> It did make me think of a particular architectural
> issue which seems  
> to be cropping up more and more; that is, the impact
> that  
> implementing security in the web tier has on the
> future extensibility  
> of the app.
> 
> For applications that were designed as web apps and
> will continue to  
> only be web apps for the rest of  their lives, this
> shouldn't impact  
> much on the extensibility of the apps.  If the
> validation rules or  
> access control requirements change, these can easily
> be changed in  
> the web tier (and as you've shown Struts makes it
> really easy,  
> because it's all declarative).
> But if the application needs to be extensible, e.g.
> must have a fat  
> client down the road or must expose web services,
> then any security  
> implemented in the web tier would have to be
> re-implemented in all  
> the other facades.  To be truly extensible
> applications should  
> implement security functionality in the business
> tier so that any  
> changes to the presentation technology (or new
> technologies) don't  
> impact the core functionality.  E.g. for classic
> J2EE technologies  
> this would mean implementing access control on the
> EJB's themselves  
> rather than in the web tier.  This is also the
> approach taken by the  
> Spring framework: both access control and input
> validation are tied  
> to the beans that form the middle tier, not the
> presentation.
> 
> It may not be a big issue, but I think it's
> important to understand  
> how choosing the web tier as a security provider
> could impact the  
> extensibility of the app down the line.
> 
> 2p
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> On 20 Mar 2006, at 02:44, bugtraq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
> 
> > "This article will focus on developing secure Web
> applications with  
> > the popular Java framework Struts.
> > It will detail a set of best practices using the
> included security  
> > mechanisms. The first section will
> > provide an overview of both Struts and Web
> application security as  
> > a context for discussion. Each
> > subsequent section will focus on a specific
> security principle and  
> > discuss how Struts can be leveraged
> > to address it."
> >
> > http://be.sys-con.com/read/192434.htm
> >
> > - zeno
> > http://www.cgisecurity.com/ Application Security
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